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gyrojeffro
December 7, 2018, 3:36am Report to Moderator
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Got the top of the fuselage skinned and since I won't have a rear windshield, I decided to build a removable cargo area made from foam board. Foam board is all the rage in the rc community.its gonna be awesome!



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tdweide
December 7, 2018, 5:24am Report to Moderator

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Foam board is great for rc! But i dont think after having worked with it i would use any other foamboard on my plane! Seriously im sure you know what it is but consider it!

https://store.flitetest.com/flite-test-waterresistant-foam-board-by-adams-25-pack-flt-2050/p674259
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Tom
December 7, 2018, 12:42pm Report to Moderator
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My experience is that light foams, covered on both sides with either glass fiber or carbon fiber can be a very good building method under two conditions:  First you need to either use it where it has no effect on the basic strength of the aircraft or be a really good structural analyst prepared to do testing to inform your calculations.  Second, it is a good idea to limit it to structures which are unlikely to be exposed to non-distributed point loads.

I would recommend getting a copy of Burt Rutan's straight forward practical book: Moldless Composite Sandwich Aircraft Construction.

I would think for constructing a cargo area it would be a very good solution.

I would also point out that a "fastback" fuselage with a continous flow off the wing would be expected to be a little faster than the normal Hi-Max with the wrap aroud windows.  Not much but a little.  Also better flow to the empennage.

Tom
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gyrojeffro
December 8, 2018, 5:01am Report to Moderator
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Stumbled on the old pics of dads 1989 rans coyote!  Got a bit chocked.up since he is long passed.



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gyrojeffro
December 8, 2018, 5:06am Report to Moderator
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Back then they had what they called a sidewinder ballistic chute before the BRS.
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gyrojeffro
December 9, 2018, 3:57am Report to Moderator
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The worst part of getting older is seeing the older generation pass to th other side.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=aqYvOw1Au80



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gyrojeffro
December 11, 2018, 3:57am Report to Moderator
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I got a lead on a used 277, if the stars and planets align , I can pump more money into team. Which I want to do.
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gyrojeffro
December 11, 2018, 4:15am Report to Moderator
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Hey yaw watch is!



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gyrojeffro
December 12, 2018, 4:05am Report to Moderator
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According to my new "revised" weight calculations, I was doing a lot assuming on the weight of certain parts.I tried to overestimate the weight of certain parts such as the teflex cables which weigh four pounds.here is the breakdown of the weight of the components so far.

Fuselage 95
Wings 50 lbs both "estimate"
Tail 10.6
Rotax 277 69 lbs
Struts 11.4
Prop 5.5
Lexan 2 lbs estimate
Teflex  cables 4 lbs
Paint and fabric 10 lbs estimate

257.5

Inflight trim and brakes are mandatory to a safe flying aircraft.
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Bob Daly
December 12, 2018, 4:56pm Report to Moderator
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Your wings will be lighter than 50 lbs for sure.  Should be close to forty maybe less.
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Greg Doe
December 12, 2018, 5:39pm Report to Moderator
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I can't remember exactly, but my wings were in the 30 lb.range. My right wing was heavier because it has a 5 gal. tank.
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gyrojeffro
December 13, 2018, 4:07am Report to Moderator
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Quoted from Greg Doe
I can't remember exactly, but my wings were in the 30 lb.range. My right wing was heavier because it has a 5 gal. tank.


That sounds close to what I am seeing. Installing the aileron nose ribs. Trump needs to increase the part 103 weight to 300 lbs for us peasents. Haha



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LSaupe
December 13, 2018, 10:56am Report to Moderator
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Cant tell from the images, but how does Team handle washout?
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Tom
December 13, 2018, 11:47am Report to Moderator
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There isn't any washout.  On a rectangular wing where the section is constant the outer part of the wing will stall last anyway, so washout would just reduce lift.  

By the way this is a complex subject which we are still learning a lot about.  Some of the original research which seemed to advise washout on certain types of wings seems to have been based on tests in which some variables were poorly understood and thus not constrained.

Tom
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Bob Daly
December 13, 2018, 4:23pm Report to Moderator
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Regarding washout, the rectangular planform wing naturally stalls root to tip.  This is because of span-wise airflow resulting in greater angle of attack at the root than at the tip.  Near the root, the airflow is nearly straight back and the apparent angle of attack is close to the true angle.  Near the root, the airflow is angled outward so, for the same height of the leading edge, the air travels further to the trailing edge. By comparison, for a tapered wing with no washout, the air near the tip travels a shorter distance to reach the trailing edge so the true angle of attack at the tip is greater than that at the root and the wing stalls tip to root.
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December 14, 2018, 4:23am Report to Moderator
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LSaupe
December 14, 2018, 12:24pm Report to Moderator
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Fabulous Info Bob.  I guess it could however, be tempered by each design predicated by flight test... fuselage and prop blast interference and use of wing tip droop tip/fences etc (that would change the upper surface flow patterns).  The previous rectangular wings  I was familiar with (Piper Cub and Kitfox) all have washout added, hence the question.  Thanks for the clarification.
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Bob Daly
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Quoted from LSaupe
  The previous rectangular wings  I was familiar with (Piper Cub and Kitfox) all have washout added, hence the question.  Thanks for the clarification.


Those planes probably have excellent roll control deep into a stall.  The Maxes also have full-span ailerons and the wing likely will not stall completely across the span until the airspeed is absurdly low and the elevator loses power.
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gyrojeffro
December 15, 2018, 3:39am Report to Moderator
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Operation swiss cheese in full effect. Ads-b receiver removed along with the battery that powers it.



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gyrojeffro
December 16, 2018, 4:06am Report to Moderator
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Operation swiss cheese!



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December 16, 2018, 4:18am Report to Moderator
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December 18, 2018, 4:34am Report to Moderator
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I am a person of faith and science



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gyrojeffro
December 20, 2018, 4:09am Report to Moderator
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I got outbid at the last 5 minutes over the engine I wanted from some ahole. https://www.gofundme.com/TheTrumpWall I will fund team and what american people want. Sorry to get political



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gyrojeffro
December 23, 2018, 3:56am Report to Moderator
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Himax will be flying by spring of 2019. I got half of the nose ribs cut out. Free chocalte butt holes for everyone! Merry Christmas my friends!
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December 26, 2018, 4:49am Report to Moderator
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gyrojeffro
December 27, 2018, 2:04am Report to Moderator
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Got all the nose ribs cut out minus the 1/4" plywood doublers. Also received elevator trim tab kit from team.



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gyrojeffro
December 27, 2018, 2:20am Report to Moderator
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Quoted from Ricardo
Doing a great job!
Just make sure you sand off those edges before covering the wing


Thanks ricardo I took care of that before hand to make things easier.




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gyrojeffro
December 27, 2018, 5:33am Report to Moderator
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Put the max on a diet. This keto diet might be adding weight.



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LSaupe
December 27, 2018, 9:54am Report to Moderator
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Quoted from Ricardo
Doing a great job!
Just make sure you sand off those edges before covering the wing


In the covering process, how is that surface discontinuity handled?  Does the high spot result in near fabric unsupported for a distance, or is the fabric laid over the bump and glued down (to the high and low areas, so that the bump remains high relative to the final nearby fabric surface)?
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LSaupe
December 28, 2018, 12:40pm Report to Moderator
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Thanks for posting Recardo!
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