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Ricardo
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Quoted from Harless Greear
RETO,

Actually I didn't use a spring, I used a small Bungee cord........


I also have a bungee to easy the tail load on the stick . Mini Max tails are heavy.



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maxpayne
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Not trying to hijack here but what is that peice of metal going from landing gear to landing gear? Is this a himax? That bungie cord will not help if the elevator cable breaks, but a spring on the tail to tail wheel may, and helps with the heavy elev.
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Not trying to hijack here but what is that peice of metal going from landing gear to landing gear? Is this a himax? That bungie cord will not help if the elevator cable breaks, but a spring on the tail to tail wheel may, and helps with the heavy elev.


Max : That metal piece is part of the metal landing gear option. Thanks for the comments on the bungee not helping in a broken cable situation. ANy pictures how to set the spring on the tail?
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Reto S
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Quoted from Harless Greear
RETO,

Actually I didn't use a spring, I used a small Bungee cord........


Just wondering, for example during T/O, if you would let go the stick, wouldn't there be an enormous pitch up motion? Do I understand right, that you have to maintain forward pressure until the cruise, where the bungee cord will create kinda neutral force (level flight)?
Thank you for clarifying.
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Reto S
January 17, 2014, 1:32am Report to Moderator
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The spring going from tailwheel to elev horn works good. I like how the kitfox trims the hole elev.


Would you have a picture of that set up?
Thank you.
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maxpayne
January 17, 2014, 1:36am Report to Moderator
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Ricardo I have not got my new camra yet so no photo. I bent a small peice of alum to 90 deg, up from the tail wheel.Then i ran a spring to the elv horn to the top of that alum, so it pulls the elv up at a better angle.I read my own post  and it barly makes sence.
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Reto S
January 17, 2014, 1:38am Report to Moderator
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Quoted from maxpayne
Not trying to hijack here but what is that peice of metal going from landing gear to landing gear? Is this a himax? That bungie cord will not help if the elevator cable breaks, but a spring on the tail to tail wheel may, and helps with the heavy elev.


This is a good point. To get redundancy, did someone install the dual elevator control modification (UK91)?
Thank you for further inputs.
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Reto S
January 17, 2014, 1:43am Report to Moderator
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Quoted from maxpayne
Ricardo I have not got my new camra yet so no photo. I bent a small peice of alum to 90 deg, up from the tail wheel.Then i ran a spring to the elv horn to the top of that alum, so it pulls the elv up at a better angle.I read my own post  and it barly makes sence.


You are right, now I am confused too. Wouldn't it pull the elevator down, if you are attaching a spring to the elevator horn from underneath?
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maxpayne
January 17, 2014, 3:44pm Report to Moderator
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Reto the spring is pulling the bottom of the horn aft, which lifts the elev. To get better mech advantage i bent a peice af alum up from tailwheel about 4".
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Reto S
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Quoted from maxpayne
Reto the spring is pulling the bottom of the horn aft, which lifts the elev. To get better mech advantage i bent a peice af alum up from tailwheel about 4".


Ok, now i got it.. Thank you 'maxpayne' for this input.
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Reto S
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Side panels are ready for assembly.
UK 91 seatbelt attachment modification and metal landing gear option incorporated.
At the moment I can't import the engine due to political unrest in Thailand.
Therefore exact position of engine mount not yet known...
Bulkheads are next...
Started with Rib #14.
Cheers
Reto




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Ultramax
February 18, 2014, 8:47am Report to Moderator
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Hi, I am in BKK at the moment. Much work importing the kit in? Is tax and duty a big issue? Looks very nice by the way.
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Hi, Which engine you using in your Eros?
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Reto S
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Hi, Which engine you using in your Eros?


Hi Ultramax
I am using a Hirth 3202V engine which has just arrived...
Importing into Thailand is not such a big issue as long you use a Thai consignee and you import a kit (not single parts)...
Hope that helps.
Cheers
Reto



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Reto S
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Finally back building. The engine was delayed. Now nose section and engine mount for Hirth engine is adjusted. Next will be pulling the nose together.
Cheers

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You can never have too many clamps...



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February 26, 2014, 1:13am Report to Moderator
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WOW!! Clamps-r-us!!!!!!
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Ricardo
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Hi Ultramax
I am using a Hirth 3202V engine which has just arrived...
Importing into Thailand is not such a big issue as long you use a Thai consignee and you import a kit (not single parts)...
Hope that helps.
Cheers
Reto


That´s 55 HP plenty of HP for your Eros. Can´t wait to see it flying.
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Reto S
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Quoted from Ricardo


That´s 55 HP plenty of HP for your Eros. Can´t wait to see it flying.


Hi Ricardo

Was quite a fiddle to get the engine mount right. Now it is very strong and the Hirth engine seems to fit...

Have a great day!
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February 28, 2014, 6:58am Report to Moderator

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Since its a new engine I dont think you dare remove the fan and drive parts, but that thing on the back including the rope starter assembly is around 6 kgs. Its more than a big 17Ah battery weight.
I was really surprised when I got that off from my 2702.
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Arthur Withy
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CRIKEY..... thats alot of clamps....hope there is some glue is left in the joints.....to hold the plane together  

Nice engine.

cheers Arthur
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Quoted from pkoszegi
Since its a new engine I dont think you dare remove the fan and drive parts, but that thing on the back including the rope starter assembly is around 6 kgs. Its more than a big 17Ah battery weight.
I was really surprised when I got that off from my 2702.


Hi pkoszegi
Good idea, but unfortunately the fan is needed under the Eros cowling...
I am anyway too heavy for Thai UL registration.
Just learned that Experimental category in Thailand will finally require PPL...
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Reto S
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Quoted from Arthur Withy
CRIKEY..... thats alot of clamps....hope there is some glue is left in the joints.....to hold the plane together  

Nice engine.

cheers Arthur


I am a clamp addict with a gentle grip...    
Cheers
Reto

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Quoted from edwinkania
WOW!! Clamps-r-us!!!!!!


... clamps are good for you!

Cheers
Reto
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Reto S
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Bending went smooth...



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Knut A
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Retro S... welcome to Thailand, this flight forum and to the MiniMax world... I used to fly MM in Norway, but lives now in Thailand without aeroplane and with an expired pilot license.
Maybe I can do something with that later, but now is my time occupied with house building. Will follow your building tread and maybe we can meet one da. I live in Isan, amphur NanSom.
Good luck with your project.
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Retro S... welcome to Thailand, this flight forum and to the MiniMax world... I used to fly MM in Norway, but lives now in Thailand without aeroplane and with an expired pilot license.
Maybe I can do something with that later, but now is my time occupied with house building. Will follow your building tread and maybe we can meet one da. I live in Isan, amphur NanSom.
Good luck with your project.


Dear Knut
Thank you for your kind words.
Progress slowed down a bit, trying to catch up though...  
Just managed to get PolyFiber covering products in (after 7 month of trying)... Happy!
Any time you are in Chiang Mai send PM...
Cheers
Reto
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It won't be long now and you will be sitting in it on your work bench making airplane noises! Lol
Nice work and lots of power its going to climb like a Extra 300!

Tom
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Yup lots of power but heat and humidity can be hard on density altitude. Do they have private airstrips in Thailand and or public use airports, is there much private aviation there??? I am showing my ignorance, please be kind.


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Quoted from tjspindler
It won't be long now and you will be sitting in it on your work bench making airplane noises! Lol
Nice work and lots of power its going to climb like a Extra 300!

Tom


Hi Tom
If you believe it or not, I already made engine noises, even the fuselage is still up side down...  
Power might be just enough to get off the ground...  
Cheers
Reto
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Quoted from aeronut
Yup lots of power but heat and humidity can be hard on density altitude. Do they have private airstrips in Thailand and or public use airports, is there much private aviation there??? I am showing my ignorance, please be kind.


Hi aeronut
Luckily Chiang Mai has only 3 "hot" month (FEB/MAR/APR), otherwise temperatures are quite pleasant. Humidity is rather low too...
There are both private and public airstrips. Private airstrips are either certified for UL and/or LSA & GA usage.
The license situation is Microlight or UL require UL license, LSA or GA require PPL.
The flying community is very small compared to western countries.
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Reto
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