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Phil
April 8, 2019, 12:35pm Report to Moderator

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It's been 10 years had passed since this build started and should I say: "Classic miniMAX"? LOL.
And yes, don't asked why our ol' image turned completely an amazing look!  Perseverance still a thing to talk about...well a good friend, Bob Hoskins has brought me back on track reminded and encouraged. Thanks Bob!

Reviewed this thread to traced what has been done with ideas shared by fellow builders.
Meanwhile, I considered this build as complete in terms of items receipt recently but need careful installation before aircraft registration.( even ultralight should be registered in the Phils.)

Here, is the latest update of build a final set-up for cockpit.

Best Regards,

Phil V
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April 8, 2019, 1:12pm Report to Moderator

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Instrument panel final set-up.



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Bob Hoskins
April 8, 2019, 4:29pm Report to Moderator

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Hey Phil
That is a great instrument panel. Glad you got it all together. Now the next thing is to get it in the air. All the Max's fly great so that is no problem. Make sure you get the proper training if you need it. ALWAYS pays to be safe. Make sure you keep us informed on your progress. I am 77 and still at it. I don't tear up the sky's, but rather putt around in it, LOL. As long as your are in good health go for it. You will love your Max. Building it your self too, can't beat that!!!
Bob


Fly safe and have fun.
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April 8, 2019, 7:34pm Report to Moderator

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Congratulations Phil. I would like to see the smile on your face after the first flight and I am also looking to see some air to ground pictures of your beautiful country. Best wishes for your first flight.   


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Phil did you know that there are 200 different kinds of termites in the Philippines. And your worried about sharks LOL.


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Phil
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Quoted from aeronut
Congratulations Phil. I would like to see the smile on your face after the first flight and I am also looking to see some air to ground pictures of your beautiful country. Best wishes for your first flight.   


Thanks! Sure I will.

Phil
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Quoted from Phil
Instrument panel final set-up.


Very Nice! Congratulations Phil . Enjoy the rides.
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Phil
April 11, 2019, 6:56am Report to Moderator

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Quoted from Ricardo


Very Nice! Congratulations Phil . Enjoy the rides.


Thanks, Ricardo!
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Phil
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Plumbing Rotax 277. Running single cylinder engine has more vibration...
Do you guys with this engine type used bulb primer? My concerned is wear and tear of item that may cause to engine out.
What do you think?

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April 11, 2019, 11:21am Report to Moderator

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I had trouble with primer bulbs like that one. They would come apart, or leak. I plumbed mine direct and just used a mustard bottle to get it started by spraying a little directly into the throat. There are also push-pull primers that can be used and mounted in the cockpit.
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Greg Doe
April 12, 2019, 12:52am Report to Moderator
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I have a cheap panel mounted plunger primer. I got mine from Lockwood for $9.95. The best thing is you can watch the gas go through the primer line, and feel the resistance, so that with a little practice, you don't flood the engine.
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Put the Rotax remote enrichment circuit(choke)on your engine.  Add an inline electric Facet pump.  You don't have to hardwire it in, use a lighter plug.
On cold mornings, pre-flight, normal checks,  then get in.  Turn on the master switch.  Turn on the aux switch.  Plug in the Facet pump plug. LISTEN.   When it quits fast pumping, unplug, add choke, 1/4 throttle,  and hit the start switch.

Bet you it cranks.......

Guys.....this stuff ain't hard.  Just follow the basic Rotax instructions, add Rainbow Aviation's Rotax feeding tips...... Life gets much better.  
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April 12, 2019, 11:10am Report to Moderator

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I thought there wasn't one out there that didn't have the enrichment circuit.
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My original Bing carburetor had a choke, but the one I'm using now doesn't have one. Chokes have been known to leak. I know of cases where operators have deactivated them. Obviously an electric pump requires a power source. For me personally, I find a $10.00 plunger primer the simplest solution. LIKE, what does "hit the start switch mean"?
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Phil
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To keep it simple  I opted not to used any item in line between pulse pump to carb. Bing has choke on it for priming obviously cranking prop before ignition 'Contact' is a must. Tee fitting in line with shut off valve installed located at the lowest portion of the system that will be part of my pre/ post flight chores...Draining sediments and/or drain for emptying tank. Does Murphy's Law has something to be with? Lol.

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Why priming before ignition "on"?  When she is ready to go she will fire off.  Always double check the Rotax fuel circuit installation manual.  For many years (and maybe this is still the case) in-line electric fuel pumps were specifically not allowed in the manual.  Issues with pressure drop when not in use and excessive pressures on the pulse pump etc.

I have run both the plunger primer circuits and the enrichment circuits.  Both have worked fine.  I tend to like the plunger circuits a bit more as it allows for faster starts, and an option to be able to quickly kill the engine if your grounding circuit fails (i.e. fast flooding).  Also can be used as a manual fuel pump to get to a safe landing area in your are not already in a gravity feed situation.
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Hi Phil, I assume you are going to hand prop your engine and not useing a battery. I had the same setup on my 277 powered max103 and only had a pulse pump and a plunger primer in the fuel line. Squeeze bulbs have been known to fail. I started mine by watching the primer line as I watched the fuel enter the intake manifold then I would make sure the throttle was at idle then flipped the prop a few times with the ignition was on. If it did not fire I would push the plunger one more time and the engine would usually fire then I would keep adding fuel till it would idle on it’s own. This technique will work even if the carb is dry as the pulse pump will rapidly fill the bowl. The 277 will food easily so don’t over do it.

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Decided to retained primer bulb by tapping two tee fitting from main fuel line and installed fuel shut off
valve to closed circuit after priming or carb bowl filled, that relieved pressure in prime bulb from pulse pump while closed shut off valve prevent leaked if bulb fails.



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Simple firewall forward set-up.



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Playing with or fitting a 6-1/2" carbon fiber spinner.



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Phil I have always liked spinners as they seem to dress up the nose....looks good. Another note concerning the ignition coil mount. Always use 4 screws to mount the coil as I had 2 on my 277 and it eventually cracked due to vibration.

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Very cool spinner.


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Always use 4 screws to mount the coil as I had 2 on my 277 and it eventually cracked due to vibration.

Monte,  277 has only three threaded hole for ignition coil in the crankcase provided for. And yes, only two were used the third unused (encircled red).
Wondering how you managed 4 screws on it. The bracketed coil mount screwed is (encircled green) then mounted into crankcase( in blue). I'm still figuring how it is done? I mean 4 screw configuration.

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Phil my 277 was converted to cdi and they probably used a different coil. my coil was black and had a square pole thru the body of the coil with 4 holes. your coil looks like a better design.

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Quoted from texasbuzzard
Phil my 277 was converted to cdi and they probably used a different coil. my coil was black and had a square pole thru the body of the coil with 4 holes. your coil looks like a better design.

monte


This engine was purchased brand new from Airscrew Performance in cdi converted version but I dont know if the ignition coil was original from rotax.

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Today the muffler is mounted but it seems the spring bracket little bit far from muffler's centroid.
Do the indicated yellow arc line is the proper location for this? At least, would lessen the header's stress?

Phil



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I put two on mine. Each one is up against the ribs in the canister. There is also a back up safety cable that runs inside each spring. I don't want it to fall off! 277 Rotax.
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Quoted from Greg Doe
I put two on mine. Each one is up against the ribs in the canister. There is also a back up safety cable that runs inside each spring. I don't want it to fall off! 277 Rotax.


Retained a single spring canister holder with 1/8" stainless flexible safety cable on it plus safety wires on 3 header springs.

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I have done W&B recently.This max is equip with brakes, flaperons, 5 gal. fuel tank,  rotax 277 engine and basic flight instruments that includes magnetic compass, ASI, Altimeter, CHT/EGT Gauge, Tiny Tach, bank indicator and Yaeso Handheld radio. Aircraft empty weight is 264 lbs. Standard pilot's weight (me) is 200#. I opted to add 5.5# lead ballast at -28" arm just under the engine. This is for favorable cg of 14.47" location from L.E with 4 gallons fuel. The 1989 max manual recommended cg envelop is 13 to 16.2" from L.E. I'll be at our aeromodel airfield by end of this month for photo session needed for a/c reg. documentation, engine break-in and few taxi test.

Phil
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Phil,
On my original Kawasaki 440 installation I used a single spring mount per the plans and it was located near the end of the canister and within 5 hours the header had cracked. I moved the mounting point to where the exhaust pipe balanced and I haven't had a problem since. I still used a single spring with a safety cable inside. I did the same thing when I switched to the Hirth 2704 engine and have had no problems.
Your Max is looking good!
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